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xvid trouble playing, installed 1.2.1 still shows as 1.0.3 in gspot 4 file

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11 Jan 2009 04:10 pm
adiktlost
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like above , i’m having trouble playing avi files with the xvid codec. i can play other movies fine, well kinda wmplayer (11) has been closing, so has wmplayer classic, but since been using gomplayer it plays perfectly the movies wmp won’t even start to.

quick summary can play everything fine through gomplayer except avi files with xvid codec, codec version seems to be stuck at 1.0.3( used gpsot on those files) tried wmplayer 9( then upgraded to 11, both crash) uninstalled k-lite full, then retried, same deal, tried bsplayer also crashed. In gom player the avi files with xvid codec the video seems to drag and video and audio are out of sync.

btw, system is 600mghz, 256mb ram, 16mg 2x agp voodoo, enough for the xvid hardware requirements from xvid’s page, so even though some crash in wmp i still don’t think it’s a hardware problem. i did have k-lite full installed on here, but uninstalled it and ran tuneup utilites reg cleaner.

whenever i try to install an xvid codec (straight from the site) it hangs on trying to overwrite xvid.ax , so i just went into windows/system32 where it said the file was, renamed the extension the first time around, 1.0.3 xvid.ax was 52kb, xvid.ax 1.13 was 76kb. 1.1.3 did not work either and when running the file under gspot it still showed as 1.0.3 for the xvid codec being used for the file, so this time an uninstall, deleted xvid.ax and xvid.axold into the recycle bin and another reg clean. after installing xvid 1.2.1 (new xvid.ax was 76kb) was curious tried file through wmp, a crash, then through gomplayer, no difference there i think. bsplayer still crashes.

i’ve tried the xvid FourCC changer, no luck playing perfectly with any of the other settings, tried them all. tried disabling the xvid filter in gom’s settings, no luck, tried changing xvid’s priority settings in gom to highest, even have the player itself on a high setting, tried to enable quick play mode in gom, no luck, tried changing the source settings for video filter from auto to all other settings, no luck.

the only movie files i still have on here at the moment that are playable, when ran through gspot have video codecs : codec - XVID ; Name : XviD ISO MPEG-4 (so i can play some xvid’s fine)
codec - DIV3 ; Name DivX 3 Low-Motion (sounds like a crappy codec but when comparing the frame quality as well as other settings are higher for this than xvid files i’m having trouble with, audio codecs are the same all around mpeg-1 layer 3)

confused, any help would be appreciated.

[Quote] #2
11 Jan 2009 07:56 pm
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anonymous
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Are you certain gspot reports the xvid version? Where does it do that? I’ve never seen it.

600MHz is a tad low for xvid playback - especially if you’re running stuff that’s more than 320x240 (640x480 and higher will take a big toll on processor). This could explain the audio/video desynchronization you’re experiencing in some cases. Just right click on your taskbar and pick task manager and look at the performance tab while playing xvid contents. Is it 100%? If so your CPU’s underpowered.

When opening the xvid files that don’t play in gspot, can you go to the bottom and click the various 1’s (particularly the one under video and the one under MS). Then click on the various items in the box to the right of that to list the filters used to render the video. Is xvid listed or is some other codec trying to take over xvid decoding?

One last test would be to use VLC Media Player. You can install it, and when you’re done you can uninstall it (very clean - doesn’t leave any residues in your registry, your system32 folder, and what not). Try playing the xvid videos you’re having trouble with. If VLC fails, you can be pretty sure it’s the videos that are corrupt, and not a problem with your decoders.

I don’t understand your next-to-last paragraph as it contradicts what you said earlier. Are you saying your xvid files are playable or not? What about divx 3?

One last thing to check is: when you view the fourcc in gspot, is it lowercase xvid, or all uppercase XVID? (it makes a difference because Koepi’s decoder only handles uppercase ones). If necessary, change the fourc to all uppercase XVID. If it’s too much hassle, use an alternate xvid build, such as Nic’s http://nic.dnsalias.com/xvid.html

As for K-Lite, I don’t recommend codec packs, because they install a lot of junk, and it’s hard to pinpoint a problem once one crops up because there are so many variables. The closest I could recommend to a codec pack would be ffdshow-tryouts.

[Quote] #3
12 Jan 2009 12:21 am
adiktlost
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sorry, just learned it only shows the codec version it was encoded with not the version i’ve downloaded for decoding,

tried vlc player it crashes. nic’s build for xvid looks awful old- XVID - 06/04/05 , still may try it later but trying to dodge older codecs

you’re right about the cpu usage,( even though according to xvid- http://www.xvidmovies.com/faq/#2.2
2.2 Hardware requirements to play XviD movies

All that is needed is a fast enough computer. We don’t know the exact minimum requirements, but anything less than a Pentium 300MHz running Windows 9X/NT/2000/XP is likely to encounter problems with skipping. For AMD K6/K6-2 computers we have found that the minimum requirements are higher and we recommend at least an AMD K6-2 400MHz for proper playback.

— -i have a 600mghz with 256mb ram and 16mb voodoo 2xagp

sux for me but with some tweaking maybe they’ll play

you’re also right about the HxW -(640x480 and higher will take a big toll on processor)

sux i can’t upload screenshots here, made an account at photobucket so you can see gspot pics and cpu usage of what i can and can’t play,,, very very fine line.

http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq180/adiktlost/

(sorry about the file size on the pics 2.25mb’s apiece , just now noticed)

guess my only options now are to trim back my system even more or convert the file types over to another video codec , any suggestions? i already know a few that i can play but is there any certain one that’s best for slower systems like mine?

[Quote] #4
12 Jan 2009 02:20 pm
adiktlost
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hmmm, this make sense,,, i can play large divx files encoded/packed with divx , i can play large xvid files encoded/packed with divx but i CAN NOT play xvid files packed/encoded with divx .

did a quick search, quick difference between divx and xvid is that while divx is more user friendly, xvid is faster, open source and better quality . i’m going to upload 2 last images so you can see the difference, they will be labeled Divx vs Xvid and Xvid vs Divx. they will be 2 gpsot screenshots of 2 movies BOTH using xvid but 1 using xvid with the an avi “packed bitstream " by divx . the divx packed one seems to be better quality all around as well.

now time to see how long it takes to convert, fun fun (sarcasm) IF it doesn’t take too long i’ll convert the xvid one to be an xvid packed with divx and leave all other settings the exact same, but i’m pretty much convinced already ( i noticed in other movies the same deal, but in these specific 2, the closest 2 i could find, it looks like to me that divx’s settings and quality are higher than xvids( but i’m a noob so i’m really just guessing)

final divx vs xvid showdown -
http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq180/adiktlost/

now, why can’t i play xvid?

[Quote] #5
12 Jan 2009 04:19 pm
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anonymous
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I looked at the fourcc in your screenshot, and it says DX50. That’s DivX 5 (and 6, maybe 7 too - haven’t looked at version 7 yet). But all the metadata strings point to xvid (for example Xvid0037). Xvid does have the option to put a fourcc of DX50 (or even DIVX) during encoding for compatibility with DivX-certified players, but I don’t like that practice. You could always manually change the fourcc back to XVID using a fourcc changer.

adiktlost wrote: tried vlc player it crashes.


If it’s just the one or two vids that keeps crashing (as opposed to all xvid videos), and after your results with VLC, I’m pretty sure it’s the source video and not the decoder.

Nic’s build was only a fix if your fourcc was lowercase xvid, but it’s not, it’s DX50.

If all else fails, try DivX: http://www.divx.com. It’s the decoder meant for the fourcc DX50.

Just as a side note: Xvid and DivX are both MPEG-4 (part 2)-family codecs. They’re both derived from the OpenDivX project. Xvid is open source and DivX is commercial, and I believe their developers do keep close contacts with each other.

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