| 18 Jan 2004 08:17 pm |
Cole Guest | Hi, no I currently dont supply the DTS package on its own because of the required files that go with it (it can be installed on its own though), there are some smoothing options for DivX 5.1.1 and if you have any worries about it being authentic it can be checked against DivX’s own package,
I havent found any blocks in resize on any of my systems but using the smooth playback and deblocking may help you, but please do remember that what you’re viewing is intended to be as close to the original as you can currently get or as close as the ripper got.
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| 23 Jan 2004 05:05 pm |
Urso Guest | Great job, Kylenol and Cole! Thanks to you guys, I finally can listen to Saving Private Ryan! Thanks for sharing the information!
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| 15 Feb 2004 09:39 am |
Regular Rep: 0 Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 615 OFFLINE | Posted by Kylenol
"...have used VirtualDub and GSpot to check out what audio codec I need for this AVI file, and it is reporting a Tag 2001.“
Posted by radicalashboy
“You Need AC3 Codec”
Posted by Kylenol
“No. I don’t need the AC3 codec.
It’s Tag 2001 — not 2000.“
So... FYI what you need is an XForm filter and Decoder. The AC3Filter is both an XForm filter and Decoder and contrary to what Cole said, it does work.
In Cole’s solution it’s only using Gabest’s AC3/DTS XForm Filter and a suitable Decoder, which is namely - InterVideo AC3 Decoder 5.1.5.5 - Unlocked. Now, I dunno about the actual legality of offering the InterVideo AC3 Decoder - unlocked, in a pack, but you’ve got to wonder...
Posted by Kylenol
“b) way to get just the DTS codec/filter from you directly instead of being contained in the entire codec pack?“
I have answered this question above, seeinq as Cole didn’t appear to know the answer...
Also, I would like to add that it’s not a DTS codec, it’s simply a DTS decoding method as the sound is being relayed to a suitable decoder and outputted.
In the case of the AC3Filter method, audio is put through the XForm, decoded and outputted. ALL the process is done by the ACFilter.
See, read more:
http://www.inmatrix.com/zplayer/formats/ac3.shtml | |
| 16 Feb 2004 01:31 am |
Kylenol Guest | Hi,
I realize that a filter and decoder are necessary in order to hear the audio (via DirectX filter chaining), however, I still don’t understand why the DTS audio can be decoded using what is labelled as an “AC3 Decoder”. DTS and AC3 have a different audio encoding structure, yet every “decoder” I’ve seen treats them as one and the same when it comes to decoding them.
What’s with that?
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| 16 Feb 2004 12:47 pm |
Cole Guest | @ Frightfo0
DTS audio in avi etc. is tagged as 2001, which cannot be decoded by the open source AC3Filter.
To tell people exactly how I’ve done what I have done in my packs would probably cause legal issues so I simply have no comment.
There is no hack, no crack and no reverse engineering involved.
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| 16 Feb 2004 01:04 pm |
Cole Guest | Almost forgot.... if you wanted to go to the point of changing the tag to 2000 to ID as AC3, then you could get it to pass through to almost any AC3 decoder,
I would not suggest doing that though because to every application its launched in it would be seen directly as AC3 when its not, it could cause confusion in many ways.
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| 16 Feb 2004 09:36 pm |
Regular Rep: 0Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 615 OFFLINE | http://www.inmatrix.com/zplayer/formats/ac3.shtml
To play back AC3 (Dolby Digital) or DTS (Digital Theatre Surround) within AVI/MKV/OGM files you have two options.
1. Use an XForm filter that relays the AC3/DTS data from the AVI/MKV/OGM container into an AC3/DTS Decoder and the second is the Decoder itself.
2. Use The Open-Source AC3 Decoding Filter (which contains both the XForm and Decoder in one filter).
Note that not all decoders actually need the XForm filter (For example, the NVIDIA NVDVD filters have internal XForm filter), but installing this filter has no detrimental effect, so you might as well have it installed.
My personal favorite AC3/DTS Decoder filter is that one that comes with the WinDVD Player or Decoder pack. This player is commercial and can be bought at InterVideo.
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| 16 Feb 2004 10:59 pm |
Cole Guest | Quoting thread subject: >>> Unknown Codec (tag 2001)
AC3Filter does not... I repeat does NOT decode 2001 tagged DTS.
You raised a fairly pointless arguement which has probably got some people reasonably confused, I hate to quote you.... but here you go:
“My personal favorite AC3/DTS Decoder filter is that one that comes with the WinDVD Player or Decoder pack. This player is commercial and can be bought at InterVideo."
If you’re using that then AC3Filter will not be in use on your system for DTS.
We do agree on one thing however, the InterVideo codec is the best and yes people should buy it.
Also it’s true that there is no such thing as a DTS playback codec for the PC, it would be nice if there was but for the time being we have to make the most of what we have.
I’d like to see InterVideo sell the codec on its own, there is a huge market out there for people who just want that simple little thing and not the player.
Hopefully thats more helpful ... Cole
http://www.cole2k.net
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| 18 Feb 2004 12:21 am |
need raw DTS Guest | Thanks, guys for the insight.
I’ve got the sound in both AC3 (x2000) and DTS (x2001). Using Cole’s pack, Thanks.
I’ve used the ac3filter to skip the decoding and the signal raw to the receiver - in ac3 it works great - my Harman/Kardon lights up with 6 (DD) or even 8 channels of audio (DD-EX).
But I can’t get the same effect with DTS. It seems as it is coming predecoded, and sends only two channels.
According to GSpot routing is obviously different, and there is now direct codec for DTS, so it’s rendered directly.
Any suggestions for DTS codec/filter that doesn’t decode? 
Thanks,
Alko.
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| 18 Feb 2004 07:07 am |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 15 OFFLINE | ref: need raw DTS
Raw DTS is tagged around 2089, at the moment I’m not sure external decoders would understand the tag correctly without some processing there, you could try passing through on SPDIF with the InterVideo decoder.
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| 11 May 2004 06:49 am |
C0n5ci3n53 Guest | it worked :P thx alot
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| 12 May 2004 01:15 am |
The Eraser Guest | I have been all over the place looking for Codec 2001 with no luck and you information has work and I’m over joyed If I can ever help you please feel free to contact me. I very very grateful
Thank you again.
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| 15 May 2004 10:00 pm |
JohnDoe Guest | Took me some time, but I finally found the AC3.DTS_sangsu.exe
Once downloaded it worked perfectly.
http://www.cineast.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=data2&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&keyword=DTS&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=2696
is the site that has the file.
http://www.cineast.co.kr/zboard/download.php?id=data2&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&keyword=DTS&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=2696&filenum=1
is the download link.
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| 20 May 2004 09:13 am |
The Eraser Guest | Since trying to find Codec 2001 some months ago. I have recently find a Codec Pack which resolves this problem and can be found at
http://www.cole2k.net/?display=CP-A the file is name is Cole2k Media - Codec Pack V5.46 Advanced
Hope this helps...
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| 20 May 2004 04:03 pm |
Regular Rep: 0Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 615 OFFLINE | The AC3Filter now officially supports DTS:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76480
http://ac3filter.sourceforge.net/download/ac3filter_1_01a_rc1.exe
Try it out :-)
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| 21 May 2004 10:35 am |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 15 OFFLINE | It’s good to see that some progress is being made with AC3Filter to make it support DTS, I think everyone should be aware thats its not stable yet though.
I will be coninuing to use InterVideo’s filter in my packages, but may include AC3Filter as an optional filter at a later date.
For those wanting a stable and working solution:
http://www.cole2k.net
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| 02 Jul 2004 12:40 am |
lyliakar Guest | hi all, I just wanted to thank Cole.
I got the same problems as Kylenol, I already had the ac3 codec installed and even installed a filter for DTS I found goolgling (like I found this forum), but still got no sound, while his pack works like a charm. I just installed the audio codecs tho, as I already had the video ones.
Thanks man, keep up with the good job
And just to add my 2 cents, I could turn the DTS audio into an mp3 track using a device: I re-encoded the movie using Dr. Divx, not for the movie’s sake but for the audio’s, as Gknot and vdub didnt recognise DTS despite Cole’s pack, then stripped the video and replaced the DTS track in nandub.
cya’ll
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| 07 Jul 2004 02:47 am |
need raw dts Guest | I came across this on ac3filter official site in the pathes section. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=902966&group_id=66022&atid=513091
anyone tried this?
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| 03 Aug 2004 02:07 pm |
Xcyter Guest | Thank you very much Cole
The audio codecs work fine
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| 06 Oct 2004 07:02 am |
maxdy Guest | hey guys. this file worked for me
file name: DTS.AC3.Audio.Codec.exe
downloaded from overnet. works nicely.
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