| 02 Aug 2005 08:27 pm |
FrameServe Guest |
The AOL Ultravox protocol is open-source, does that mean it’s safe to post/host a program that can download AOL NSV files?
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| 03 Aug 2005 03:32 pm |
marc Guest | oh for all those who are on windows looking for an alternative to winamp that DOESNT play NSV files at 100x speed - download VLC media player - works like a charm 
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| 03 Aug 2005 08:21 pm |
d00d Guest | yeah VLC has the shoutcast directory in the playlist, now if i could figure out how to add the AOL/Winamp NSV Video feeds
I’ve had “some” luck saving nsv streams to disk using the streamripper/winamp plugin.
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| 04 Aug 2005 03:31 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0 Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 58 OFFLINE | FrameServe,
You have asked a very useful question - Is making an NSV downloader legal? I’m surprised you’re the first one to wonder about this out loud.
First off, I am not a legal expert. But I do have an opinion about the subject. By making the protocol open to the public, AOL is more or less inviting us to design software that is able to play the Ultravox files. Playing is one thing. Downloading may be a different story.
AOL’s media is copyrighted. As users, we are permitted to watch it but almost certainly not allowed to duplicate it. By copying the media from AOL’s server to your computer, you are duplicating it. However, the software used to make the duplication is not necessarily illegal. My best guess is that the software itself would be legal, but by downloading copyrighted media you would be *using* the software illegally.
I hope this is the way it works, because it frees us to write the software.
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| 04 Aug 2005 04:42 pm |
FrameServe Guest | Thanks for your opinion Steve_NSV. I have coded a small download utility that works but was wondering if I should share it. It looks like AOL is inviting us to write programs by releasing the protocol specs. If software like WM Recorder and HiDownload can exist than why not something small for AOL NSV?
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| 05 Aug 2005 11:20 am |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 58 OFFLINE | Wow, FrameServe, that’s the most encouraging news I’ve heard since this forum started! I can hardly believe it... You made a utility that actually allows the NSV files to played offline? This is excellent!
Whether you choose to share your experiment is completely up to you. I am just happy that it has been shown to be possible! If you can do it, then others may be able to as well.
If you release the program, it is possible that AOL may attempt to shut this thread down. (They already did so for a website that was publishing instructions for obtaining RM and QT copies of their media.) They may even try to go after you and send a cease and desist notice. (I’m not sure there is any legal basis for this, but they might do it out of pure intimidation factor.) To keep yourself out of trouble, it would be wise to remain anonymous. However, if your program works, it will quickly find distribution on the Internet. You would be amazed at how many people would love to have this utility.
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| 05 Aug 2005 11:54 am |
Jon van Camp Guest | High guys: for downloading a .nsv i use streamripper for winamp!!! It d. loads in .nsv , but doesn’t convert it in other formats, this is where i’m looking 4.
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| 05 Aug 2005 03:44 pm |
Gonzaloc Guest | Hi,
I’ve been try to download a NSV video, and its a really big trouble... its this one:
Aerosmith 'Just Push Play' (Making of): http://channels.netscape.com/ns/music/videos/archive.jsp
I think the URL is: http://web.lightningcast.net/servlets/getPlaylist?ver=2.0-AOL&nsvid=/aol/us/aolmusic/artists/sony/aerosmith/aerosmith_justpushplay%3Bbitrates%3A350%2C220%2C120%2C36%2C26&wmsid=&realurl=&qturl=&pid=DL&brand=NS&franchise=MUSIC%3A%20Music%20Videos&len=-1&s1=&s2=Just%20Push%20Play&s3=%27Just%20Push%20Play%27%20%28Making%20of%29&disabled=&uid=e47ad977b2cee28a34660ca51f947c11&zip=&loop=0&previd=&event=&TZ=&speed=2000&ipaddr=200.121.112.124&gender=&age=&daypart=&dma=&genre=&surfacePoint=us.netscape&playlistGroup=&cpid=mxid%3A1100096&player=
But i just cant download the fuckin video! i need to have it, if there a way to download it and make it to an AVI, MPG or WMV it would be great...
Please HELP!!!
GONZALOC!
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| 05 Aug 2005 03:45 pm |
Gonzaloc Guest | The source code of the web page i can view the vide is:
//uid=e47ad977b2cee28a34660ca51f947c11
//brand=NS
//franchiseId=MUSIC: Music Videos(us.netscape)
//playerId=DL
//templateId=379
//templateVer=6
//templateName=us.netscape.broadband
//hostname=vaeq-dmz-g33
//DCUrl=http://ad.doubleclick.net/adx/tw.netscape.us.vac/mus_music_videos;chan=;area=;genre=;play=;dcopt=ist;dcmt=text;sz=15x1;ord=1123268359083?
//Ads embargoed until=1970-01-01 00:00:00.0
//content is not embargoed
//content is not embargoed due to PID
//current time: 1123268358809
Item0 = {
nsvid : "/aol/us/ads/progressive/progressiveinsurance_ad;bitrates:700,460,320,120,28”,
curtain: { tagURL: “http://ad.doubleclick.net/adj/tw.netscape.us.vac/mus_music_videos;vid=18694144;sz=300x60;ord=3783100?", expand: true },
disabled: [“play”, “pause”, “stop”, “forward”, “back”, “seek”, “fullscreen”, “prefs” ],
LCPlaylistEntryParams: “uid=e47ad977b2cee28a34660ca51f947c11”,
assetInfo: {franchise: “MUSIC: Music Videos”,genre: "",surfacePoint: “us.netscape”,playlistGroup: "" },
heartbeat : “addHeartbeat('http://log.lightningcast.com/hb.html?listenerId=e47ad977b2cee28a34660ca51f947c11&streamId=6499',3,10);",
startEvent :“Audit('http://stats.lightningcast.net/servlets/audit?js=t&version=6.0&ioId=9347&creativeId=11966&contentId=26977&streamId=6499&fr=1123268359083&aoldata=adurl:%2Faol%2Fus%2Fads%2Fprogressive%2Fprogressiveinsurance_ad%3Bbitrates%3A700%2C460%2C320%2C120%2C28,uid:e47ad977b2cee28a34660ca51f947c11,tplateId:379,brand:NS,rqtime:1123268358809');Audit('http://ad.doubleclick.net/imp;v3;x;18694144;0-0;0;11131189;0|0;11379503|11397399|1;;cs=a%3fhttp://m.2mdn.net/1031559/dot_clear.gif');Audit('http://at.progressive.com/aol/aol.gif');",
endEvent :“Audit('http://ad.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v5|32cb|2|0|%2a|k%3B18694144%3B0-0%3B0%3B11131189%3B255-0|0%3B11379503|11397399|1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3f');",
cpid :“mxid:1100096”
}
Item1 = {
nsvid : "/aol/us/aolmusic/artists/sony/aerosmith/aerosmith_justpushplay;bitrates:350,220,120,36,26”,
LCPlaylistEntryParams: “uid=e47ad977b2cee28a34660ca51f947c11”,
assetInfo: {franchise: “MUSIC: Music Videos”,genre: "",surfacePoint: “us.netscape”,playlistGroup: "" },
heartbeat : “addHeartbeat('http://log.lightningcast.com/hb.html?listenerId=e47ad977b2cee28a34660ca51f947c11&streamId=6499',3,10);",
startEvent :“Audit('http://stats.lightningcast.net/servlets/mediathunder.auditservlet.AuditContent?aoldata=content:/aol/us/aolmusic/artists/sony/aerosmith/aerosmith_justpushplay;bitrates:350,220,120,36,26,streamId:6499,brand:NS,tplateId:379,uid:e47ad977b2cee28a34660ca51f947c11,rqtime:1123268358809');",
cpid :“mxid:1100096”,
sText : [ unescape("" , unescape(“Just%20Push%20Play”, unescape("%27Just%20Push%20Play%27%20%28Making%20of%29” ]
}
PlayList = { items: [Item0, Item1 ],
eventtag:“http://event.lightningcast.net/event.html”,
loop: false
}
Hope you can help me...
Gonzaloc!
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| 05 Aug 2005 03:47 pm |
Gonzaloc Guest | I would love to use HiDonwloand or WinAmps Stream Ripper to download the fkkkin video but the file get loaded on a web page!!! how to get its URL!!! or how to make it play on WinAmp!???
Gonzaloc!
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| 05 Aug 2005 07:56 pm |
FrameServe Guest | Steve_NSV, You’re referring to all-streaming-media.com? Was that before Ultravox went open-source? I have a 10K .7z file which i’m wondering if someone will take a chance and host.
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| 06 Aug 2005 04:16 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 58 OFFLINE | FrameServe,
Yes, I was talking about all-streaming-media.com. That’s quite sharp of you to notice. Unfortunately, I do not know if the Ultravox site was online yet.
Try uploading the file to http://www.rapidshare.de. It is a free file-hosting service that allows unlimited downloads. Then you can post the link here in the forum. :-) I’ve been using rapidshare.de for a while now... I think it’s one of the best-kept secrets on the Internet.
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| 06 Aug 2005 04:25 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 58 OFFLINE | Gonzaloc,
Here is the link to your video:
http://nsvod-prod-mods-rtr.stream.aol.com/uvox?cachefile=/aol/us/aolmusic/artists/sony/aerosmith/aerosmith_justpushplay_350.nsv
Unfortunately, getting the link is the easy part of the equation. Downloading it is the trouble. If you download with HiDownload or anything else that does not recognize the UNSV:// protocol, then the video will not play back correctly in Winamp. Trying to solve this problem is the main purpose of this forum.
Jon van Camp,
I’m not sure yet how to convert an NSV to other formats. Somebody will have to write a filter or plugin for VirtualDub or AVISynth.
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| 06 Aug 2005 07:38 pm |
Gonzaloc Guest | Hi,
Thanks very much, ya, i downloaded the video and the same problem here... it sucks that it doenst play well...
So, till no, theres no way to do it? maybe a program that saves or cpatures what winamp streams...?
Gonzaloc!
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| 08 Aug 2005 12:58 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 58 OFFLINE | Gonzaloc,
That’s exactly it. We need a program that can capture Ultravox streams. There are several tools out there that can capture Winamp streams, for example StreamRipper, but none of them support AOL videos.
Keep checking this forum... we’re trying to find a solution.
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| 11 Aug 2005 07:58 am |
MPB Guest | AOL Downloading
1.Play the video in AOL Media Player (it will pop up when you click on the video)
2.Right click near the video playing and select 'view source'.
3.The notepad window that will appear should say 'video.index'. If it doesn’t, repeat step 2.
4.hit control(ctrl)and f. then type into the box “fugu”. Don’t ask, it just works.
5.Keep on hitting find next until you get to the last 'fugu'.
6.This is the hard part so follow these instructions exactly
7. For example I will take this bit of code:
FUGU.PlayVideoLarge("/aol/us/aolmusic/specials/2005/live8/london/london_018_stereophonics_superman;bitrates:700,460,320,120,28”
You see the highlighted bit? That’s the address you need. Copy from where it starts (/aol) to just before the semi-colon
8.Next, add an underscore (_) to the end of the code you copied, then type “dl.mov” without the quotes.
9.Finally, copy all of the code you have left, so it looks like this:
/aol/us/aolmusic/specials/2005/live8/london/london_018_stereophonics_superman_dl.mov
10.Then just before the "/aol” part, add this little address:
http://progressive.stream.aol.com
so you end up with:
http://progressive.stream.aol.com/aol/us/aolmusic/specials/2005/live8/london/london_018_stereophonics_superman_dl.mov
There you go! And if you don’t understand, just ask
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| 11 Aug 2005 05:49 pm |
FrameServe Guest | Steve_NSV and others, scvi.net has graciously hosted my utility. It’s called 'Cool Beans'.
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| 12 Aug 2005 06:25 am |
sa69 Guest | I search a solution to AOLmusic
Thank you, MPB
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| 13 Aug 2005 01:32 pm |
MichaelStanfield Guest | http://www.pctip.ch/library/downloads/dl.asp?id=4957
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| 15 Aug 2005 02:00 am |
d0ppelganger Guest | I`m sure the problem is solved by now... if not - d0ppelganger.v2@gmail.com
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