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[Quote] #61
11 Jul 2005 10:48 am
Wannabe
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Note about URLs: Sometimes you cannot find them without special tools. AOL obscures its URLs with Javascript, making them practically impossible to find in the source code. In such cases, you need a utility called a URL sniffer.

[Quote] #62
11 Jul 2005 11:42 pm
John Kilping
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Does anyone know if it’s possible to record parts of a shoutcast live TV stream in nsv format, like some of the dance music videos on Fusion TV? I guess I could just treat it like a TV station and record on the VCR or DVD recorder from the s-video output, but saving a file would be convenient.

[Quote] #63
12 Jul 2005 10:36 am
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John,

Have you tried StreamRipper? It is designed to do exactly what you requested: Rip ShoutCast audio/video in MP3/NSV format. It is a plugin for Winamp, as well as console versions for UNIX and Win32.

http://streamripper.sourceforge.net

Click on the download link, which will take you to: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6172

Scroll down to the Winamp 2/5 plugin and download the latest version (1.61.7 when I last checked).

Once you install it, the plugin should be enabled by default in Winamp. If not, it is easy enough to enable in the Preferences/Plugins section. I believe it saves files with an *.MP3 extension, even if they’re videos. You will have to manually rename them to *.NSV.

[Quote] #64
13 Jul 2005 07:21 am
gc
Guest
Steve_NSV how goes your discover?
you have any ideia how we can play videos (on drive of ours computers) of AOL, whitout problems?

or any converter program.. like nsv to avi or mpeg or any other format.
i would like save on dvd many videos by AOL sad
if i can help, tell-me ok.

[Quote] #65
13 Jul 2005 09:58 am
gc
Guest
this help you..

i open “ampxtest.html” on c:\program files\common files\Nullsoft\ActiveX\2.4 and add this file as a track, and play.. good wink

the direct path of file on AOL server is
http://207.200.96.50/uvox?cachefile=/aol/us/aolmusic/specials/2005/live8/london/london_007_coldplay_inmyplace_460.nsv

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[Quote] #66
13 Jul 2005 10:04 am
gc
Guest
this help you..

i open “ampxtest.html” on c:\program files\common files\Nullsoft\ActiveX\2.4 and add this file as a track, and play.. good wink

the direct path of file on AOL server is
http://207.200.96.50/uvox?cachefile=/aol/us/aolmusic/specials/2005/live8/london/london_007_coldplay_inmyplace_460.nsv

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localcache: /data/mods/proxy_cache/X/r/q/vI17YzjWPUvZRlt8j@g
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[Quote] #67
13 Jul 2005 10:26 am
gc
Guest
look this site..
http://www.on2.com/nsv.php

sorry for the last post..2X sad

[Quote] #68
13 Jul 2005 10:37 am
Wannabe
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gc,

You are right on top of the problem. I have not found a solution yet, but I feel that the key will be found in the Ultravox documentation on ultravox.aol.com. Hopefully somebody will sift through it and try to make a working NSV demuxer/decoder/player.... or even a plugin for Winamp that allows it to transcode the video to another format. I can think of a few different attack angles.

Thanks for the link to the On2 VP6 encoder. Unfortunately, it appears to be a one-way conversion. Once a video is in NSV format, it won’t convert it back.

[Quote] #69
13 Jul 2005 11:34 am
gc
Guest
hi,

AOL use vp5 “codec” (i read on same pages) (xine for linux... remember on post back)

the next link is a info of Vp5. see

http://home.zcu.cz/~msour/mpeg4/kodeky/downloads/vp5_advantages_white_paper.pdf

[Quote] #70
13 Jul 2005 11:16 pm
topcat139
Guest
http://enki.cthuugle.com/

StreamJacker, for recording shoutcast broadcasts.
(.nsv)

Further info.....
http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/record-winamp-video-SHOUTcast-ripper.htm

Plenty of info and links there.

Another Free app.
http://www.real-security.org/#scap

hope that helps a bit, haven’t tried them myself, but check it out.

luckl

topcat139

[Quote] #71
18 Jul 2005 04:58 pm
badassredskin
Guest
[URL=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=RNWE%2CRNWE%3A2005-24%2CRNWE%3Aen&as_qdr=all&q=+filetype%3Ansv+stream]http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls...pe%3Ansv+stream[/URL]

copy the shortcut
and use winamp to open the url

[Quote] #72
20 Jul 2005 05:47 am
jojo
Guest
Best Answer from a tech guy:
I have successfully converted NSV into a compatable MPG file for dvd use.
First of all you will need the following programs:
# TMPGEnc to convert the audio and video file to an MPG
# You will need nsv_demux.zip which contains the file NSVD.exe
# On2VP3VideoForWindows.exe this is the codec which allows you to read the VP3 AVI file in windows and in TMPGEnc for conversion
and any program which can convert mp3 to wav
All of these programs are free.
The process is as follows after you aquire all of the software.
1) Install all of the software : ) easy enough
2) Use NSVD.exe in comand promt with the following command structure:
straight\NSVD.exe -n input.nsv -a video.avi -w audio.mp3
3) convert your output mp3 to a wav file
4) TMPGEnc to combined your two files into one mpg file...when i converted into mpeg1 the video was quite jumpy so converted with the following settings:
- Mpeg2
- 30FPS
- Interlace ON
Under advanced i selected noise reduction and sharpen edge just for the hell of it.

[Quote] #73
21 Jul 2005 04:02 pm
Wannabe
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jojo,

Thanks for the info. That technique will work great as long as the demux is successful. The trouble is that nobody has made a working demuxer for the Ultravox-formatted NSV.

If you try to use nsv_demux on one of the new VP5-AAC NSV files, it just gives a bunch of errors. And so the problem remains.

[Quote] #74
25 Jul 2005 01:47 am
topcat
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Hi all, try hidownload works great make sure you download whith in the programe ur helper it gets the stream address for you youll love it
email me if you need more info

[Quote] #75
26 Jul 2005 02:28 am
tscherno
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Guys look what i found !
http://www.nullsoft.com/nsv/nsvtools-setup.exe

[Quote] #76
26 Jul 2005 03:43 am
tscherno
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There are alot of NSV Tools:
http://www.scvi.net/software.htm

I think that AOL has really somehow modified NSV Format, because all the NSV Analyzer Tools and avaible demuxers show something like 3 Frames at my test video.

I think that they (AOL) don`t provide the File Header in the NSV File. Maybe they send it to the player shortly before the Stream is launched.

Sorry for my bad english

greetz
ts

[Quote] #77
26 Jul 2005 10:51 am
Wannabe
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Hi tscherno,

I find it quite amusing to read this thread. New visitors come in, read a few messages, and get inspired! In their excitement, they write things like,
“I found a solution! Just use HiDownload!"
“Hey cool, check out these NSV tools!"
“Guess what, you can download RM instead of NSV!"
“Try Streambox VCR!"

Then, inevitably, comes the disappointment. Sometimes the new folks go back and read the history, realizing all this has been tried before. Other times they wait until someone responds. Still other times, they try it for themselves and realize the suggested solution doesn’t work very well.

Tscherno, it appears you’ve had a moment of excitement and a moment of disappointment all in one day! :-) But don’t let that stop you. Keep trying... you never know, you could find a new solution that we haven’t considered yet!

[Quote] #78
27 Jul 2005 01:49 pm
tscherno
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Hi Steve,

i red the whole thread but i didn`t see that someone mentioned NSVTools or the demuxers.

Maybe it was because of the late time over here.
I think that we have to reconstruct the header of nsv.

greetz
ts

[Quote] #79
02 Aug 2005 03:26 pm
Vespian
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I was wondering how long it was going to take before someone exploded on the noobs too lazy to read the entire thread.

[Quote] #80
02 Aug 2005 06:00 pm
Wannabe
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Hi tscherno,

My apologies... You are quite right. I thought someone had posted the link to http://www.scvi.net/software.htm a long time ago, but I was wrong. Apparently I found it through a Google search. Anyway, I tried like every tool on the whole webpage. None of them worked on AOL’s new NSV format... or maybe I just couldn’t figure out how to use the tools right. Who knows, you might have better luck! :-)


Vespian,
My “explosion” was embarrassingly launched on an undeserving recipient. *I* was the one who should have looked back on the thread history before posting! Guess I was a little trigger-happy... *blush*

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