| 29 Dec 2006 03:59 pm |
Dark Kie Guest | who is the most powerful Overlord, Laharl,Zeta,Baal,or Zennon? | |
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| 29 Dec 2006 04:11 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 30  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 9,230 OFFLINE | Your probably not going to get that many responces in this thread so I’ll try to answer the question the best I can. Well Baal is out of the question. Laharl defeated Baal in Disgaea, Zetta defeated Baal in Makai Kingdom, and Adell defeats him in Disgaea 2. However Zetta beat Laharl,Etna, and Flonne in Makai Kingdom so its a fact that Zetta>Laharl>Baal. Zenon however is a different story. If you don’t want any spoilers I’m going to stop now. ---
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| 29 Dec 2006 04:25 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 30  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 9,230 OFFLINE | Okay Dark Kie I’m warning you this post is filled with spoilers for those that haven’t played Disgaea 2.
SPOILER:
Laharl was defeated by Rozalin who is said to be Overlord Zenons daughter. However at the end of the game its revealed Rozalin is Overlord Zenon The God of All Overlords. She defeated 99 Overlords in a single day and has slain over a 1000 all together. She took Laharls Overlords Wrath attack without a scrath(This attack can destroy a planet) and then defeated him without even trying. So while Zetta is powerful and badass it looks like this is the chart Zenon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zetta>Laharl>Baal. ---
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| 29 Dec 2006 04:41 pm |
Dark Kie Guest | cool but Zeta and Zennon have never fought and Zeta in Disgia 2 is still called the strongest Overlord in the Cosmos and dident he beat that dragon in his prime the one who was unbeatable and had near limetless manna? | |
| 29 Dec 2006 04:49 pm |
Going Sentimental Rep: 27  Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 7,808 | Manchestor black- Please change your signature to something a bit smaller. If need be, change the size of the image. --- "We can’t solve problems using the same thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein
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| 29 Dec 2006 05:05 pm |
Dark Kie Guest | yes please its anoying lol | |
| 29 Dec 2006 05:23 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 30  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 9,230 OFFLINE | goldenraptor wrote:
Manchestor black- Please change your signature to something a bit smaller. If need be, change the size of the image.
Will this new one do? ---
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| 29 Dec 2006 05:25 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 30  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 9,230 OFFLINE | Dark Kie wrote:
cool but Zeta and Zennon have never fought
I wish they would, that way we would be able to see who is the strongest Overlord.
Dark Kie wrote:
and Zeta in Disgia 2 is still called the strongest Overlord in the Cosmos
True, however Zenon is seen as the God of the Overlords and so far hasn’t even had to go all out.
Dark Kie wrote:
and dident he beat that dragon in his prime the one who was unbeatable and had near limetless manna?
Yes he did. ---
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| 29 Dec 2006 09:12 pm |
Dark Kie Guest | yeah that fight would be cool but whitch Lord Zenon the Daughter or the Father? | |
| 29 Dec 2006 09:59 pm |
Going Sentimental Rep: 27  Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 7,808 | Manchester Black wrote:
goldenraptor wrote:
Manchestor black- Please change your signature to something a bit smaller. If need be, change the size of the image.
Will this new one do?
Of course.
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| 29 Dec 2006 10:06 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 30  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 9,230 OFFLINE | Dark Kie wrote:
yeah that fight would be cool but whitch Lord Zenon the Daughter or the Father?
The real one meaning Rozalin as with her power unsealed. ---
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| 29 Dec 2006 10:07 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 30  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 9,230 OFFLINE | goldenraptor wrote:
Of course.
Thank you very much.
No problem. ---
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| 30 Dec 2006 12:41 am |
Dark Kie Guest | yeah that would be awsome but i still think Zeta could be way stronger than her i mean Solome his apprentice was said to have an even greater potetiol than Zeta and was an overlord herself, when she realised Zetas ambition she began adding her manna to his own day by day (this is coming from the game itself) now im not sure how old Zeta is but i no hes older han Laharl and mutch younger than Babalon (i remembered) who is around a few million years old.
so having his powers rise like that his own power (enuff to beat Babalon in his prime) with just about all Salomes power (she was nearly dieing from lack of manna, but when she gets enraged at Zeta she seems to unlock her hidden powers and crashes her Nether world into Zetas destroying them.
then Zeta beats her and as a final parting gift she gives him a huge boost of manna one he compares to the time he became the strongest overlord in all the cosmos!
and finally in Disgia 2 when that kid and Rozalin find Zeta they both crap it at the amount of manna they can sence Rozalin actually says “he truely is the strongest overlord in all the cosmos (keeping in mind he is only the sacred tomb at this time)and in his normal body he states he would crush both of them? | |
| 30 Dec 2006 01:12 am |
Light-Bringer Rep: 30  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 9,230 OFFLINE | Yes I agree with all that. However its also the fact that when Rozalin said that at the time she didn’t know she was the real Overlord Zenon, and as revealed at the end of the game the Fake Zenons power was absolutely nothing compared to the real Zenon. So for now we have no idea, but from the way it seems they could be tied. Hopefully Niphon Ichi will answer the question in the future. ---
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| 30 Dec 2006 02:09 am |
Dark Kie Guest | hmmm yes i have not seen the power of this Lord Zenon but hopefully soon i will, there is no evidence that either could beat the other for the moment i think the creator left Zeta out of the final battle for a reason??? Makie Kingdoms 2 anyone lol | |
| 14 Jan 2007 04:17 pm |
DeraldSny Guest | I got Zetta’s stats from a youtube movie and Real Zenon’s stats from the strategy guide and compared them:
HP: Zenon >> Zetta
SP: Zetta > Zenon
ATK: Zetta >> Zenon
DEF: Zetta >> Zenon
INT: Zenon = Zetta
RES: Zetta > Zenon
HIT: Zetta > Zenon
SP  Zenon = Zetta
So, based on comparing their stats in Disgaea 2(nevermind that Zetta is in his BOOK FORM), it seems Zetta comes out on top. Real Zenon would at least make Zetta break a sweat, though. | |
| 14 Jan 2007 10:21 pm |
Dark Kie Guest | cool nice work there pal looks like thats a wrap. | |
| 08 Apr 2008 09:41 am |
Overlord David Guest | If you go by Statistics....
Prinny Baal (Disgaea 1 ver) has 300% in all stats. This is equal to what Zetta’s body has. Which was 300% in all stats in Makai Kingdom. VASTLY superior to even the true Overlord Zenon.
Tyrant Baal (disgaea 1) has 200% in all stats. Still stronger than Zenon.
However it should be noted that even though Baal is still a really powerful Overlord statisticly, he’s getting weaker as time goes on. He had some really sad looking stats in Disgaea 2. As well as Prinny Baal. Which made him about the equivilant of Laharl proficiancy wise. It’s just his starting stats are much higher.
Can’t tell ya exactly what true Zenon’s proficiancies are. But I do know she’s got a very high HP stat. Probably at least in the 100-200s starting off.
However she’s completely handycapped here. Just like Zetta in book form. Except maybe even worse. She cannot equip anything.
Anyway the fact that Zenon is killed by Adell & His friends really sinks her status. | |
| 27 May 2008 01:11 pm |
Kira-chan Guest | As far as Zetta and Zenon’s stats in Disgaea 2 go though you have to take into account that Zetta has equipment while Zenon doesn’t. If you take away Zetta’s equipment it becomes much closer. | |
| 27 May 2008 01:29 pm |
Reality isnt Real Rep: 77  Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 19,166 ONLINE | Broly
Dark Sied
Omega Shenron
Sephiroth
Eternity
Captin Aizen
Frieza
Superman prime
Thor
Denzel Washington
They may not be the most powerful, but they do get the same respect. ---
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