Can't play .mkv file in WMP10 after Matroska Full v1.1.1 install

I downloaded a .mkv movie file to watch. Read on here that I need to install the Matroska Pack v1.1.1 to watch it in WMP10. I installed the Matroska Pack Full v1.1.1 and left the defaults on the install. When I tried to play the file, WMP will open up and it will say “playing” at the bottom, but nothing happens. No video and no audio. The little marker (showing progress through the movie) doesn’t even move.

I opened the file in the MatroskaDiag utility and this is what I got.

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File size : 688.90 MB
File complete : yes
Duration : 02:15:50.607
Title : Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban
Writing application : mkvmerge v0.9.3 built on Jul 18 2004 18:24:15
Muxing application : libebml v0.7.0 + libmatroska v0.7.0
Date : 2003-07-23 16:45:22.000
Tracks : 4
Track 1 : Video

Codec : RealVideo 9/10 (V_REAL/RV40)
Possible filter : RealMedia Splitter/Decoder
Installed : yes, in C:\Program Files\Matroska Pack\RealMediaSplitter.ax (1.0.1.0)
Install comments : You also need to install RealPlayer One or RealAlternative.
Link : http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli
Name : Harry Potter 3 DVD Rip RealVideo 9
Language : English (eng)
Pixel Width : 672
Pixel Height : 288
Track 2 : Audio

Codec : Vorbis (A_VORBIS)
Possible filter : CoreVorbis
Installed : no
Link : http://corevorbis.corecodec.org
Name : Audio English
Language : English (eng)
Sampling Frequency : 48000
Channels : 2
Track 3 : Audio

Codec : Vorbis (A_VORBIS)
Possible filter : CoreVorbis
Installed : no
Link : http://corevorbis.corecodec.org
Name : Audio German
Language : German (ger)
Sampling Frequency : 44100
Channels : 2
Track 4 : Subtitles

Codec : SubStation Alpha (S_TEXT/SSA)
Possible filter : VSFilter/DVobSub
Installed : yes, in C:\Program Files\Matroska Pack\VSFilter.dll (1.0.1.2)
Link : http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli
Name : Credit Subtitles
Language : English (eng)
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I realize that it was encoded using RealPlayer 9/10 and as you can see, I have RealOne Player installed on my system. I have not installed the CoreVorbis audio codec yet, but I should still be able to get video then, right? I won’t install CoreVorbis until I at least get video because that really wouldn’t help the video portion.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Read this maybe is something helpful for you:http://www.moviecodec.com/topics/1013p1.html Everybody said VLC is a good player so try it.

Thanks Labish.

Is there no way to get this to play without having to install a completely new player? I was trying to avoid having to do that. Thanks.

Oh. I just looked at the info for the VLC player and it says that it doesn’t support playing .mkv files that use the RealPlayer 9/10 video codecs. So this player wouldn’t work anyway.

Well, I suspect that the Matroska Pack Full v1.1.1 just doesn’t work well (in my case, at all) with Windows Media Player 10, but I was able to play the .mkv file using Windows Media Player 6.4. In another post I found that this player still exists on your system even if you have Windows Media Player 10 (or others, I suspect). It is found in C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\mplayer2.exe. This successfully played the .mkv file for me. Hope this helps others.

Good advice with the wmplayer2 app - worked for me too.

For a MKV containing Realvideo ( RV9/10 ), you will need Realplayer or RealAlternative installed in any case, for the necessary Realvideo decoding liraries which have to be present on your PC..... WMP 6.4 won’t help here, compared to WMP 10, wihtout these libs its powerless .....

Christian
matroska project admin
http://www.matroska.org

Well, for whatever reason, using Windows Media Player 6.4 worked for me. Yes, I have RealOne Player installed. I did before I even installed the Matroska Full Pack. It still did not work in Windows Media Player 10, but only worked in Windows Media Player 6.4. Still only works in 6.4 to this day. Don’t know why, but I’m happy that it works their, at least.

If RealOne is installed, the necessary DLLs for Realvideo decoding are present on your machine, and all is fine. Strange that it doesnt work in WMP 10 though. Maybe Gabest had to update his Realsplitter filter, so that WMP 10 isn’t conflicting. However, he seems to be MIA since some time now ...

Christian
matroska project admin

I don’t know if anyone still needs this but I had the same problem with WMP10 and I solved it by installing the Matroska Full v1.1.1 and then installing the Haali Media Splitter and I managed to get it to work. Hope it helps.

I have XP and I just right clicked an MKV file, chose properties, click 'change' changed the file association to mplayer2 in the windows media plaer folder in the program files directory.

I can watch 'big O' now...

I did what “Just Bored” did and it works =]

if you don’t have the good codec it’s normal!!
get this pack:
ftp://ftp2.yatoshi.com/yatoshi/Satsuki.Decoder.Pack.2.0.0.6.exe
it contains most of the codecs you need to play ".mkv” files even the brand new H.264 video codec.

I really wish that MKV files were never created. Whoever made these MKV files are making life difficult for people who wish to just enjoy some simple download video files. I downloaded everything that was recommended in this forum. That includes Windows Media Player 10, RealPlayer 10, Matroska Full V1.1.1. and Haali Media Splitter. NOTHING WORKS ! I am so fed up with MKV files. NEVER will I download another copy of MKV files anymore. They SUX......

I really wish that MKV files were never created. Whoever made these MKV files are making life difficult for people who wish to just enjoy some simple download video files. I downloaded everything that was recommended in this forum. That includes Windows Media Player 10, RealPlayer 10, Matroska Full V1.1.1. and Haali Media Splitter. NOTHING WORKS ! I am so fed up with MKV files. NEVER will I download another copy of MKV files anymore. They SUX......

MKV was not invented for easy file sharing. MKV is the successor of AVI, and is offering much more possibilities than it, that will of course lead to a higher risk of failure if all options are being used.

After all, its the decision of the person sharing the rip, to use whatever format he thinks is best suited for his release. Its unfair to blame us, the creators of MKV, that you cant play pirated movies from the web, especially when so many other people can do that successfully.

I expect your machine is b0rked, probably because you had too many codec packs installed before. There are many DShow filters out there that are poorly coded, and will interfere with other filters blocking playback of MKV and other files.

Even if this not our job, we even made a tool to help the users to identify where the probem is, and what installed filter is causing the conflict. Its called matroskadiag.exe and is coming with the matroska full pack.

Run the program on your MKV file and send the log file to matroska-users AT lists DOT matroska DOT org . I am pretty sure we will be able to identify where the problem is on your machine.

Christian
matroska project admin
http://www.matroska.org

Hi Christian! Thanks for your enlightenment on why Matroska didn’t work on my machine. I did have another codec on the machine and after removal, I was able to read .mkv files. Much regrets on my quick blame on something that delays my quick fix of Japanese anime. I am not a pirated movie buff. Just one big, avid fan of Japanese anime. Just out of curiousity, what is different between .avi and .mkv files? Will I be able to play .mkv files on my multi-format dvd player like I was able to with those .avi files. If not, is there a way that I can convert them? Thanks for your patience.

Just out of curiousity, what is different between .avi and .mkv files? Will I be able to play .mkv files on my multi-format dvd player like I was able to with those .avi files. If not, is there a way that I can convert them? Thanks for your patience.

AVI and MKV are extremely different in the way the video, audio and subtitles data are stored inside the file. The way we do it in MKV will allow for a couple of improvements compared to standard AVI (like Vdub creates them, NOT ODML AVIs) :

- Variable Bitrate audio (VBR) : most modern audio compression formats are using VBR for best possible compression, and AVI (in principal) can not support this important feature. There are tools that do that, but they use a kind of trick : the claim the audio track is a video track . MKV will support VBR audio in a proper way, without any hacks

- Soft-Subs : MKV will allow to store several subtitles tracks in the file, using your preferred text or picture based subtitles format, and even allow switching between them during playback. For AVI there is only one tool allowing that, avi-mux GUI, and only SRT and SSA are supported. (MKV: SRT, SSA, USF, VobSub).

- Variable Framerate video : MKV files will allow to store video with a variable framerate, which is extremly important for anime (allowing excellent compression ratios). AVI can not do this, by no means.

- Support for special codecs : MKV can contain many video and audio compression formats which can not be stored in AVI at all, like Vorbis, Wavpack Hybrid, etc.

So trying to answer your question :

Can MKV files be converted into AVI files easily ?

Short answer : if this IS possible, than there was no point in creating a MKV beforehand. MKV files can have features that AVI doesnt support, and thats their main advantage. If easy conversion from MKV to AVI is possible, no such feature was used, making the use of MKV in the case more or less pointless. Most MKVs today use either Realvideo (RV9/10), XviD VFR or AVC (h.264) video, and those can NOT be muxed into AVI without reencoding the complete movie.

However, there are MKVs floating through the net where at least the video and audio can be transmuxed into AVI, if you just decide to leave out the subtitles (like MKVs with XviD video, MP3 audio and SRT subs). If you dont need the subs, avi-mux GUI or VirtualdubMod will do this for you. avi-mux GUI can even mux SRT and SSA subs into AVI files, but the resulting files will NEVER show the subs on standalone Mediaplayers, if they will play at all.

I hope this helps.

Christian
matroska project admin
http://www.matroska.org

I downloaded an anime in mkv format. I’ve got k-lite codec pack installed which includes the matroska codec. When playing in MPC i get the following:


Media player Classic cannot render some of the pins in the graph, the following pins failed to find a connectable filter:

Stream 1
CoreVorbis Audio Decoder
Audio Switcher

Media Type 0:
— — — — — — — — — — — — —
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 18

when i run the file through Matroskadiag I get the following:

Matroska file info : Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv
File size : 340.92 MB
File complete : yes
Duration : 00:31:39.317
Title : Read or Die OVA - Episode 1
Writing application : mkvmerge v0.7.8
Muxing application : libebml v0.6.2 + libmatroska v0.6.1
Date : 2003-01-12 06:51:00.000
Tracks : 6
Track 1 : Video
- Codec : Microsoft VFW compatibility mode (V_MS/VFW/FOURCC)
- Fourcc : XviD MPEG-4 codec (XVID)
- Possible filter : Xvid
- Installed : no
- Link : http://www.xvid.org
- Possible filter : ffdshow
- Installed : yes, in C:Program FilesK-Lite Codec Packffdshowffdshow.ax (1.0.2.24)
- Link : http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow
- Name : Read or Die OVA - Episode 1
- Language : English (eng)
- Pixel Width : 640
- Pixel Height : 480
Track 2 : Audio
- Codec : Vorbis (A_VORBIS)
- Possible filter : CoreVorbis
- Installed : yes, in C:WINDOWSsystem32CoreVorbis.ax (1.1.0.79)
- Link : http://corevorbis.corecodec.org
- Name : Japanese
- Language : Japanese (jpn)
- Sampling Frequency : 48000
- Channels : 2
Track 3 : Audio
- Codec : Vorbis (A_VORBIS)
- Possible filter : CoreVorbis
- Installed : yes, in C:WINDOWSsystem32CoreVorbis.ax (1.1.0.79)
- Link : http://corevorbis.corecodec.org
- Name : English
- Language : English (eng)
- Sampling Frequency : 48000
- Channels : 2
Track 4 : Subtitles
- Codec : SubStation Alpha (S_TEXT/SSA)
- Possible filter : VSFilter/DVobSub
- Installed : yes, in C:Program FilesK-Lite Codec Packfiltersvsfilter.dll (1.0.1.2)
- Link : http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli
- Name : English (SSA)
- Language : English (eng)
Track 5 : Subtitles
- Codec : UTF-8 Plain Text (S_TEXT/UTF8)
- Possible filter : VSFilter/DVobSub
- Installed : yes, in C:Program FilesK-Lite Codec Packfiltersvsfilter.dll (1.0.1.2)
- Link : http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli
- Name : English (SRT)
- Language : English (eng)
Track 6 : Subtitles
- Codec : UTF-8 Plain Text (S_TEXT/UTF8)
- Possible filter : VSFilter/DVobSub
- Installed : yes, in C:Program FilesK-Lite Codec Packfiltersvsfilter.dll (1.0.1.2)
- Link : http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli
- Name : Titles and Signs Only (SRT)
- Language : English (eng)
Edition entry : 1
- 00:00:00.000 - 00:02:49.200 Kagekiyo, Musume, & Yashima Nikki: Shinrei Yaguchi no Watashi
- 00:02:49.200 - 00:10:53.233 Fabre, Jean-Henri: Présentation par Hilaire Cuny
- 00:10:53.233 - 00:17:20.700 Batty, C.D.: An Introduction to the Dewey Decimal Classification
- 00:17:20.700 - 00:21:12.767 Ashton-Wolfe, Harry: Crimes of Love and Hate
- 00:21:12.767 - 00:29:15.700 Aero-Club von Deutschland: Die Lehren des Deutschen Rundfluges 1925
- 00:29:15.700 - 00:31:39.274 End Notes, Volume 1

DirectShow RenderFile check :
Matroska Splitter : Gabest’s Matroska Splitter
- Installed : no
- Can be created : no
Matroska Splitter : Haali’s New Matroska Splitter
- Installed : yes, in C:Program FilesK-Lite Codec Packfiltershaalisplitter.ax
- Can be created : yes
RenderFile with DirectShow : Cannot play back the audio stream: no audio hardware is available. (0x00040258)

DirectShow detailed rendering :
0> MyRenderFile : Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv
0> Creation of GraphBuilder : OK
0> Creation of FilterMapper2 : OK
0> Adding graph to ROT : OK
140> Creation of source filter : OK
140> # Rendering output pin Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv(Video)
140> Filters matching mediatype : ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), Video Renderer, DivX Decoder Filter, InterVideo MPEG4 Video Decoder, AVI Decompressor, Nero Video Decoder, Nero DVD Decoder
140> Trying connection to ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder :
156> OK, connected to (In)ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder
156> # Rendering output pin Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv(Video) -> ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder(Out)
156> Filters matching mediatype : ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), Video Renderer, AVI Decompressor, Nero Video Decoder, Nero DVD Decoder
156> Trying connection to DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) :
172> OK, connected to (Video)DirectVobSub (auto-loading version)
172> # Rendering output pin Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv(Video) -> ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder(Out) -> DirectVobSub (auto-loading version)(Output)
187> Filters matching mediatype : ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), Video Renderer, AVI Decompressor, Nero Video Decoder, Nero DVD Decoder
187> Trying connection to Video Renderer :
265> OK, connected to (VMR Input0)Video Renderer
265> Completed path : Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv(Video) -> ffdshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder(Out) -> DirectVobSub (auto-loading version)(Output) -> Video Renderer
265> # Rendering output pin Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv(Audio)
265> Filters matching mediatype : AC3Filter, ffdshow Audio Decoder, WMplug, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), CoreVorbis Audio Decoder, ACM Wrapper
265> Trying connection to AC3Filter :
265> Failed connecting pin to AC3Filter, removing it now.
265> Trying connection to ffdshow Audio Decoder :
265> Failed connecting pin to ffdshow Audio Decoder, removing it now.
265> Trying connection to WMplug :
265> Failed connecting pin to WMplug, removing it now.
265> Trying connection to DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) :
281> DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) AddFilter failed : : Unspecified error (0x80004005)
281> Trying connection to CoreVorbis Audio Decoder :
281> OK, connected to (XForm In)CoreVorbis Audio Decoder
281> # Rendering output pin Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv(Audio) -> CoreVorbis Audio Decoder(XForm Out)
281> Filters matching mediatype : AC3Filter, ffdshow Audio Decoder, WMplug, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), Default DirectSound Device, ACM Wrapper
281> Trying connection to AC3Filter :
281> Failed connecting pin to AC3Filter, removing it now.
281> Trying connection to ffdshow Audio Decoder :
281> Failed connecting pin to ffdshow Audio Decoder, removing it now.
281> Trying connection to WMplug :
281> Failed connecting pin to WMplug, removing it now.
281> Trying connection to DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) :
281> DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) AddFilter failed : : Unspecified error (0x80004005)
281> Trying connection to Default DirectSound Device :
281> Default DirectSound Device creation failed : : Cannot play back the audio stream: no audio hardware is available, or the hardware is not responding. (0x80040256)
281> Trying connection to ACM Wrapper :
297> OK, connected to (Input)ACM Wrapper
297> # Rendering output pin Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv(Audio) -> CoreVorbis Audio Decoder(XForm Out) -> ACM Wrapper(Output)
297> Filters matching mediatype : AC3Filter, ffdshow Audio Decoder, WMplug, DirectVobSub (auto-loading version), Default DirectSound Device, ACM Wrapper
297> Trying connection to AC3Filter :
297> Failed connecting pin to AC3Filter, removing it now.
297> Trying connection to ffdshow Audio Decoder :
297> Failed connecting pin to ffdshow Audio Decoder, removing it now.
297> Trying connection to WMplug :
297> Failed connecting pin to WMplug, removing it now.
297> Trying connection to DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) :
297> DirectVobSub (auto-loading version) AddFilter failed : : Unspecified error (0x80004005)
297> Trying connection to Default DirectSound Device :
297> Default DirectSound Device creation failed : : Cannot play back the audio stream: no audio hardware is available, or the hardware is not responding. (0x80040256)
312> Backtracking, no output pin rendered for ACM Wrapper, removing it now.
312> Backtracking, no output pin rendered for CoreVorbis Audio Decoder, removing it now.
312> Trying connection to ACM Wrapper :
312> Failed connecting pin to ACM Wrapper, removing it now.
312> # Rendering output pin Cocuments and SettingsKarlDesktopRead or Die OVAa-l.read.or.die.ova.01.xvid.mkv(Subtitle)
312> OK, connected to (Input)DirectVobSub (auto-loading version)
312> MyRenderFile finished : OK

can anyone help me out here?

DirectShow RenderFile check :
Matroska Splitter : Gabest’s Matroska Splitter
- Installed : no
- Can be created : no
Matroska Splitter : Haali’s New Matroska Splitter
- Installed : yes, in C:Program FilesK-Lite Codec Packfiltershaalisplitter.ax
- Can be created : yes
RenderFile with DirectShow : Cannot play back the audio stream: no audio hardware is available. (0x00040258)

Looks like you are having a problem with your soundcard drivers. Can you play other files, like AVI, MPG or WMV on your PC ?

Christian

yea the mkv is the only one with a problem